I'm waiting to speak
with Dennis Miller, and after 20 minutes begin to question
whether I'm worthy of his sardonic wit and rapacious humor.
Reviled by some in the industry, Miller has nonetheless
featured close to everyone in entertainment on his HBO offering,
Dennis Miller Live, over the last seven years. Miller's
also gearing up for his sophomore chair on Monday Night
Football, where fat Nielsen numbers get to hear Miller's
catchphrase, "That's just my opinion...I could be wrong."
When I finally do speak to him, there he is, Dennis Miller--in
Portland for his show on July 23rd--and the man is apologetic,
reserved...almost self-deprecating. First I've ever heard
a sincere apology from him, and it's aimed at me?! Caught
off-guard to say the least.
D. Miller:
I'm sorry, I have to apologize to you. I'm at my
vacation home, and my wife asked me to put away the trampoline
that was out on the lawn because we're heading home today,
and the next thing I know, I'm out rolling this thing
across the lawn, like Jill Clayburgh carrying that big
picture that Alan Bates gave to her at the end of An
Unmarried Woman, and the wind was buffeting it and
I got completely wrapped up in a chore and then I came
in and said, "Christ, I forgot to call," and for that
I'm sorry.
(Well, maybe not completely sincere, but you gotta love him.)
DJ Anon: Wow, not just an apology,
but a witty metaphor to go along with it! Now, are you
originally from Philadelphia?
D. Miller: Well, you see, that
appeared in a Playboy...I'm originally from Pittsburgh.
DJ Anon: Oh, shit! I've screwed
up already.
D. Miller: I guess the writer
had morphed together a Pennsylvania city with a "P" in
it.
DJ Anon: I was finally reading
that article in Playboy. Honest, I was. Moving
on though, it's intriguing to me how you manage to bring
in a cohesive political element to your show and work
it in without pulling the punches and pushing your own
agenda. Everyone's fair game to you, right?
D. Miller: When I took 6 months
off from HBO, I didn't follow politics at all, because
I find it exasperating and I don't think that anything
gets done and I think that politics is shit. But, I think
they make themselves readily available for me to poke
fun at and I'm able to do that with certain constraints:
I mean, I don't think that someone's 17- or 18-year-old
daughter trying to get served is of interest to me, because
I believe, "don't judge lest ye be judged." Everybody's
kids are going to be 17 or 18 one day, and I think they're
going to be trying to buy beer, and I don't go after them....But
when Bush mispronounces words or does things that ecologically
don't make much sense to me, I think that he's fair game.
And you know what, I think that he knows that he's fair
game. I think he couldn't care less.
DJ Anon: I was a big fan of The
Dennis Miller Show when it aired on prime-time television
for its 6-month run, or however long it was on, and I
was watching it back in '92 when you had PiL (Public image
Limited) on with Johnny Rotten, who was the lead singer,
and when you didn't interview him after their set, he
called you a "wanker." Did that cheese you off at all?
D. Miller: Ahh, John Lydon. I
don't know, once a guy gets past 40, I can't do the "Johnny
Rotten" thing; to me he's always been John Lydon. I think
that's his schtick, you know, so that when I'm with him,
it's the same as Norm Crosby mispronouncing words. So,
if Johnny calls me a "wanker," I actually find it kind
of funny...
DJ Anon: Or surprised for that
matter.
D. Miller: I mean, Johnny Lydon,
we're ships that go bump in the night. He came on, he
sang a bad song. I was running a little late; I thought,
"I don't know, this guy doesn't look like he has anything
to say except to swear at me." So, I just kind of moved
on. When he called me a "wanker," I just said, "thank
you," you know? I like drawing the ire of guys that are
easily angered. That kind of...pleases me...
DJ Anon: How do people typically
react to that?
D. Miller: Well, I have a codified
set of opinions and I like to express them in some sort
of a different manner. I mean, it's my job, but I don't
want anybody to think like I think. Every now and then
someone will come up to me and say, "You know, I think
you're a punk, or I think you're a smartass and I don't
like what you do." It's their business and that's fine.
I don't know them. I'd like to stop down and say, "my
whole thing navigates around what you think of me," but
I don't even know them.
DJ Anon: So, for example, you were
never reproached by James Carville saying, "Hey man, I
don't like how you said that I looked like a Muppet that
had been washed on hot?"
D. Miller: I also said that the
guy's got more nervous tics than a Belfast parking valet.
DJ Anon: You're killing me!
D. Miller: Well, he is a creep.
You know what, I don't have anything against Clinton with
these young women, but don't send this sick lapdog out
to trash them. He (Carville) needs to get some respect
for himself. And his wife's someone that I respect immensely,
so it really is like a Tracy/Hepburn movie where two people
who are, it seems, ideologically and ethically polarized,
can fall in love. Carville disappoints me because he seems
too smart to go out and do this crappy cleanup work, you
know?
DJ Anon: Was there any temptation
for you to stay on with Saturday Night Live?
D. Miller: No. I mean, imagine
if you're an older guy and you look like the guy who graduates
and then comes back to the mixer next year to hang out
at the keg and get laid by an undergraduate? I don't want
to be that guy. I had to move on. I mean, you'd look like
a goofball after a while. It's a show for 16- to 18-year-olds
by and large. I mean, that's who they're targeting, so
to be on it again would be ludicrous. I remember the 2nd
year that I hosted the MTV Music Awards, I looked down
in the mosh pit and the kids were looking up at me like
I was Wilford Brimley. I mean, I thought, "maybe it's
time to move on."
DJ Anon: Dennis, do you have
any plans to publish more of your rants (Dennis Miller:
The Rants, 1996)?
D. Miller: Yeah, there will
be a book out later in the year and I think those are
good to read while you're taking a dump. I mean, each
one is about four minutes long, so digestively it works
out.
DJ Anon: Four minutes is the
perfect dump time.
D. Miller: Hey, listen, I'm
proud of the book! I think it fits in a bathroom! I'll
be honest with you: I would call myself, in some ways,
politically and socially naive. I think there's a pragmatism
about these rants...just a sort of common-sense approach
that's appetizing to some people. But, I think that
if you peel back the skin of the onion and start probing
the depths of my political knowledge, I'm a child.
DJ Anon: On the subject of rants,
one of your more recent ones dealt with anxiety. Is
there anything specifically in real life that you feel
anxiety over?
D. Miller: I think that proximity
to one's imminent demise. And not only that, but worrying
about day-to-day things feed the neurosis, like, "does
this have salmonella? What's this hair on the back of
my ears? This plane's bumpy..."
This, coming
from the man who recently said that he gets anxious when
Stone Phillips wears earth tones. Of course...that's just
his opinion.
He could be wrong.
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